Tuesday, May 08, 2007
Thursday, April 26, 2007
I knew I'd start blogging again when I finally got high speed access at home...of course, that was months ago, and I'm just starting to get back to task. I think part of the problem is feeling like I have nothing to say at times...afterall, I work, pray, spend time with family & friends, lift (although not heavy since "the incident"--a blog unto itself later) and still try to find time to read--and sell stuff on eBay!
But, maybe this process is as much for me as it is for you...
But, maybe this process is as much for me as it is for you...
Friday, March 17, 2006
Colorado - Part 1
As much as I am enjoying what I learn, I have to say that the highpoint was hanging out with Nate the other night and discussing postmodern literary criticism...good friend and good discussion...now, if we only had coffee...
Some thoughts/interestingteaching so far:
(By the way, the conference is on free market small groups--basically, it just menas that we base small groups in the church around people's natural passions and interests.)
"I don't know of any church in America that doesn't have small groups...we just don't call them small groups."
-Ted Whaley @ a reception for AG pastors today
Thought: for so long the church hasn't recognized many small groups--ways people connect--in the church. Will recognition affirm their gifts, calling, passion and ministry?
"Small groups are a necesary part of spiritual growth."
-Henry Cloud
Henry makes the point that real spiritual growth occurs in the context of relationship--where we learn to live out our faith in the context of relationship. Interestingly, he also made the point that discipelship without relationship is unbiblical and impossible...
Some thoughts/interestingteaching so far:
(By the way, the conference is on free market small groups--basically, it just menas that we base small groups in the church around people's natural passions and interests.)
"I don't know of any church in America that doesn't have small groups...we just don't call them small groups."
-Ted Whaley @ a reception for AG pastors today
Thought: for so long the church hasn't recognized many small groups--ways people connect--in the church. Will recognition affirm their gifts, calling, passion and ministry?
"Small groups are a necesary part of spiritual growth."
-Henry Cloud
Henry makes the point that real spiritual growth occurs in the context of relationship--where we learn to live out our faith in the context of relationship. Interestingly, he also made the point that discipelship without relationship is unbiblical and impossible...
Tuesday, January 31, 2006
Play Doh Elephants
...haven't been much of a blogger lately...partly due to the fact that I still can't get high speed access at home...and partly because of a new baby...it's a lot more work than some people seem to want to tell you...but it really is pretty cool...
I'm in some meetings on time management this week...it should be an interesting time...
Today we talked about elephant thinking...when elephants are very young, they are tied to a stake that they can't move. Later, when they get older, they won't try to pull away from a very small stake--even if they're only attached by string--because they belive it's impossible to move.
Question to Ponder:
Is there something God calling you to that seems impossible?
"I can do everything through him [Christ] who gives me strength."
-Paul's letter to the Philippians (4:13)
Wednesday, October 19, 2005
Scripted AND Authentic?
My friend Paul led worship the other night using a DVD. Frankly, I have always considered this a second rate option at best. Afterall, with the musical talent available here at Calvary, was this really necessary?
It's made me rethink something...I always viewed anything canned as inauthentic in worship. But, in recent years I have begun to value and enjoy written prayers being read aloud as a part of worship, responsive readings (1 part read by leader, rest of us read the 2nd, then repeat until end), etc. Why do I resist some things while embracing others...i guess i'm just wondering where the balance is...
This weekend we're doing a young adult worship gathering called: ya worship. I guess this'll end up being a learning lab for all of this.
It's made me rethink something...I always viewed anything canned as inauthentic in worship. But, in recent years I have begun to value and enjoy written prayers being read aloud as a part of worship, responsive readings (1 part read by leader, rest of us read the 2nd, then repeat until end), etc. Why do I resist some things while embracing others...i guess i'm just wondering where the balance is...
This weekend we're doing a young adult worship gathering called: ya worship. I guess this'll end up being a learning lab for all of this.
Tuesday, October 04, 2005
Baptism in the Holy Spirit
OK, this has been historically controversial, but frankly, I don't care. I know firsthand its power in my own life.
What place does it have today? I want to see young adults filled with the power of God so they can live out this crazy faith of ours. Jesus is the baptizer, not me. And I want to depend on Him to see hundreds of young adults filled and overflowing with the power of God. Church isn't worth my time unless it's infused with the power of God.
Maybe a better question would be "what place should it have?" We've often moved it to the back porch when it should be on the front porch--not as a right of passage, but as an unashamed, empowered and empowering experience of the living God.
What place does it have today? I want to see young adults filled with the power of God so they can live out this crazy faith of ours. Jesus is the baptizer, not me. And I want to depend on Him to see hundreds of young adults filled and overflowing with the power of God. Church isn't worth my time unless it's infused with the power of God.
Maybe a better question would be "what place should it have?" We've often moved it to the back porch when it should be on the front porch--not as a right of passage, but as an unashamed, empowered and empowering experience of the living God.
3 streams
I'm blogging live...so forgive any mess ups...
Earl sees 3 streams of young pentecostals
1. loyalists--grew up in church, haven't moved on doctrinal distinctives, just ready to go work more
2. post distinctive leaders--love the movement but have a few qualms about doctrine like initial physical evidence
they're saying:
problem is i see non-tongue speakers flow in the gifts more than tongue speakers
"i've always struggled that we've made a doctrine out of a manifestation"
"give us some room to figure this out--without kicking us out"
3. post-denominationals--had it with abuses in the institutional church
left or are leaving the AG--often end up in house churches
Earl's pneumatology -- "more is good" Romans 15
if having the Spirit is good, more is always good
A question we must ask ourselves:
Are we doing anything dangerous enough to require the Spirit to show up?
young leaders are not looking for something to live for, they're looking for something to die for
pentecostalism must be more about the edge and less about the center
the church must be driven out of its Jerusalem (center) by the Spirit and to the people at the margins
Earl sees 3 streams of young pentecostals
1. loyalists--grew up in church, haven't moved on doctrinal distinctives, just ready to go work more
2. post distinctive leaders--love the movement but have a few qualms about doctrine like initial physical evidence
they're saying:
problem is i see non-tongue speakers flow in the gifts more than tongue speakers
"i've always struggled that we've made a doctrine out of a manifestation"
"give us some room to figure this out--without kicking us out"
3. post-denominationals--had it with abuses in the institutional church
left or are leaving the AG--often end up in house churches
Earl's pneumatology -- "more is good" Romans 15
if having the Spirit is good, more is always good
A question we must ask ourselves:
Are we doing anything dangerous enough to require the Spirit to show up?
young leaders are not looking for something to live for, they're looking for something to die for
pentecostalism must be more about the edge and less about the center
the church must be driven out of its Jerusalem (center) by the Spirit and to the people at the margins
Monday, October 03, 2005
Lobster Religion
A few points of interest (sorry Earl, I don't mean to infoer that the others are not of interest!)
same Gospel
people desire connection
boomers aging
consumerism in church free market - every SUnday church members can choose between going out to see you or in to see TD Jakes!
Everything is changing...
things that haven't changed
1. We bring our culture to church
the problem is not MTV infecting the church, the problem is north american church culture--it's more caustic to the Gospel!!!
2. We need to dismantle deficient theologies
a) service times that don't make sense-who's up at 10 am? Church people!
Thought: I'd like do late night services...it's hard to go at 11am and 8:30 is way too early
b) two stage conversion to be a good christian you need to first become a good Jew -- by that Earl means that we want people to act right according to our legalism/church culture/law
immediately circumcising new male converts is laughable today, but that is part of the struggle in 1st century Judaism/Christian relations
?What things do we require of new converts that might be equally crazy sounding?
3. counterfit nodels need to be demolished
a) the church in north america seems to belive that if we hold the fort, then the enemy will surrender
b) if we are holy enough, revival will come--maybe while we're waiting on God, He's waiting for us
c) if we build it, they will come
# with all 3 is that they are non-missional--Christian culture has more influence on us than the Gospel--OUCH!
Things to ponder:
How am I not receptive to people that God brings in?
If tongues is the initial physical evidence, what is the final/continual evidence? Where's the power?
(I know some presumably spirit-filled people who don't live in power!)
Thoughts on the service:
At what crossroads am I? What does God have for my future?
There are a lot of choices with the ya-s, community groups, Berean, etc.
Prayer:
God, give me more power in preaching & teaching. Fill me again, and again, and again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
btw, Lobster Religion...read Acts 11...remember that shellfish were unclean...and think about Peter's reaction to God's command...do we make our own lobster religion?
same Gospel
people desire connection
boomers aging
consumerism in church free market - every SUnday church members can choose between going out to see you or in to see TD Jakes!
Everything is changing...
things that haven't changed
1. We bring our culture to church
the problem is not MTV infecting the church, the problem is north american church culture--it's more caustic to the Gospel!!!
2. We need to dismantle deficient theologies
a) service times that don't make sense-who's up at 10 am? Church people!
Thought: I'd like do late night services...it's hard to go at 11am and 8:30 is way too early
b) two stage conversion to be a good christian you need to first become a good Jew -- by that Earl means that we want people to act right according to our legalism/church culture/law
immediately circumcising new male converts is laughable today, but that is part of the struggle in 1st century Judaism/Christian relations
?What things do we require of new converts that might be equally crazy sounding?
3. counterfit nodels need to be demolished
a) the church in north america seems to belive that if we hold the fort, then the enemy will surrender
b) if we are holy enough, revival will come--maybe while we're waiting on God, He's waiting for us
c) if we build it, they will come
# with all 3 is that they are non-missional--Christian culture has more influence on us than the Gospel--OUCH!
Things to ponder:
How am I not receptive to people that God brings in?
If tongues is the initial physical evidence, what is the final/continual evidence? Where's the power?
(I know some presumably spirit-filled people who don't live in power!)
Thoughts on the service:
At what crossroads am I? What does God have for my future?
There are a lot of choices with the ya-s, community groups, Berean, etc.
Prayer:
God, give me more power in preaching & teaching. Fill me again, and again, and again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
btw, Lobster Religion...read Acts 11...remember that shellfish were unclean...and think about Peter's reaction to God's command...do we make our own lobster religion?
Carlisle Again
I'm going to try to blog the whole conference with Earl Creps up here in Carlisle, so here goes...
Blog #1
proximity...a very talented young lady sang tonight--she won a national fine arts contest for teenagers. From the picture, you can guess how far back I am...?what does our distance from people in church communicate? I love the large celebration service with 100 people, but the linear relationship established by the distance tonight does affect my perceptions...if this were my only setting in which to interact, I can't help but think that my view of God would subtly change...interaction and distance...hmmm...